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Public Gangs, Newbs, and Gang zones

Post by Lockie_Fantico »

Since being on the sa-mp hosted tab we've had an influx of new players and I've seen many of them asking in /n how they can join in the gangzone system. This feature now seems to be an integral part of the gameplay of the server so it makes sense why these newbs want to participate.

At the moment you have to be in a private gang to do this, but getting into one takes time and that can be alot to ask of a new player, which may be the deciding factor on whether he or she decides to stay on SZR or go to another server. So I think an alternative for option for these players might be worth trying.

So using the public gangs would be the obvious choice, here are a few ways I thought of going about it, with extra BBCode!
  • Upon completing the tutorial, the new player is either..
    1. Given a question "would you like to be placed in a gang?" YES(recommended/NO. Then is either randomly placed in Vagos or Ballas, or all placed in the same gang. If they pick NO then they spawn as a civilian at newbie spawn.
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    2. Automatically are placed in Vagos or Ballas or all in the same gang, then given clear instructions on how to /quitfaction if they prefer starting off as a civilian.
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  • Experienced players can still /joinvagos or /joinballas as normal, but there is a time limit 'til they can /quitfaction (e.g. 1 hour) and/or a money penalty based on player's level.
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  • Vagos and/or Ballas can either...
    1. Claim any turf if they don't have one, then follow the same rules as private gangs (only being able to claim turfs joined to your current one, etc.). Upon winning the turf battle all members in the public gang get a cash reward.
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    2. Only prevent other gangs from claiming turfs but can never own a turf themselves. Upon winning the turf battle all members in the public gang get a cash reward.
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  • Vagos and/or Ballas of rank 1+ can /zoneclaim.
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I like the idea of given a question if you want to join vagos or ballas or civi at the the tutorial, that will keep things easier.
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Sounds good!
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I'm always running into newbies asking "how i join gang" and stuff, so I really think incorporating the public gangs into the tutorial is a great idea.
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if this happens, it's more likely for complaints to be made (like logging to avoid death and other exploits newbies tend to do) but i like the idea of everyone getting involved.
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There would need to be new leaders - Bankwell is... idk and whoever leads Vagos is never doing their job.

If I'm wrong screw timezones w/e
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Excuse me? I'm currently leading Vagos as Zero Morales, I don't know where Tommy Villa and Marcel Wright are but yeah. I'm actually doing my job and I have just taken 5 zones and recommended a vagos to another gang.. Please only state facts if you know about them
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Darnell you have 4 zones actually.
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Post by Slopko »

I heard Vagos were helping Triads get zones confirm/deny?

Also Lockie, the newbie gangs can participate in gang zones, not just private families. It's already like option #1 currently.
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Please only state facts if you know about them
If I'm wrong screw timezones w/e
I got myself covered. Anyway, thanks for letting me know.
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Slopko wrote:I heard Vagos were helping Triads get zones confirm/deny?
lol tommy villa
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Darnell wrote:Excuse me? I'm currently leading Vagos as Zero Morales, I don't know where Tommy Villa and Marcel Wright are but yeah. I'm actually doing my job and I have just taken 5 zones
out of the 5 zones, you only have 2 or 1. i wonder where the others went.
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darnell's using vagos to give triads gang zones?
who would've guessed
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that's meatgaming if i've ever seen it!
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Darnell never gave us any zones. The only zones I got were from Tommy Villa and he claimed them by himself and sold them to me so what's the problem?
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PLEASE ONLY SPEAK IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT!
Dom wrote:darnell's using vagos to give triads gang zones?
who would've guessed
Who are you to lie about facts?
Who said I've given anyone any zone? You can check the logs if you want. Atm, your accusing me of doing something which can get my leadership from vagos removed. I'm doing my job correctly.
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For now, I have added a marker to find the HQ when you /joinballas or /joinvagos.
New public gang members will start at rank 3 ( experimental )
There is also an icon at both HQ which tells you to type /new.
This starts a simple "how to play SZR" tutorial. Its brief, I will add to it when I can be bothered.

The reality is that newbies don't even bother to read the /help, they just ask in /n but whatever.
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Ah Rachael I was going to say, if its possible. If you can make a sytem that promotes a newbie in vagos from rank 0 to 1 and so on when they achieve something such as, helping another player / Being active / Made a good progress throughout their job.
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in other words Rachael can you script a system that does his leadership position for him?? please??!?!?
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Darnell wrote:Atm, your accusing me of doing something which can get my leadership from vagos removed. I'm doing my job correctly.
you don't even log in on zero so i'm not sure what you're talking about
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fyi I was active on Zero Morales this whole week. What are you trying to do ? Take over ? Sure go ahead. Atleast I care for the newbies and help them. I spent nearly all my cash on Zero Morales to just help newbies with materials and how the mats work.
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