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Post by Lockie_Fantico »

I've seen many newbies complaining about not having enough money, and given how long this wipe of the server has been going I think alot of the prices have gone up to create more money sinks for the poopsockers, making being a newbie harder than ever. I have been thinking that there should be a system of rewarding money to newbies who grasp the basic functionality of the game. The idea being that they are encouraged to try all the jobs and learn to use commands and are given a few grand for using each one successfully, with which they can purchase levels, weapons, a basic car etc. to get them started quicker. People who are OCD about their 100% completion would also enjoy this.

Commands
/ach all and /achievements all - Lists the achievement categories, I was originally thinking it would list all of them but if you have an achievement for almost every command, that would be too many. So instead it would being up how much of each category you have achieved in brackets after the name of that category. Example: TOTAL: 23/100, Arms Dealer (3/8), Drug Dealer (2/8), Lawyer (0/8)
/achcat <category> - lists the achievements in that category and if they are (C) complete or the money earned if incomplete. Example for "/ach arms dealer": Close and personal(C), Eat lead($3k), Mats on the go($5k)
/achname <name of achievement> - tells you what you need to do to get this achievement. Example for "/ach close and personal": Sell any melee weapon to another player. (Hint: /sellgun)

When you complete an achievement and in this case it is selling a melee weapon to another player, some blue text comes up in your chat box something like: Achievement: Close and personal (+$2000)

Lastly, your achievement record could be in /stats: Achievements: [23/100]
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Re: Newbie Achievements

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This is a really good idea. I remember only a week ago trying to start off as a new account, it was nearly impossible. I generally just dropcar'd, tabbed, repeat, get paycheck, until I was level 3. Putting this in would really help the newbie population. But there should be a level limit when they stop coming, so a level 20 doesn't start getting rich by using their endless supplies to do the achievements.
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Nice idea. Would help the new guys alot.
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This is a damn good idea. I haven't been a newbie in a long time, but even back in those days, I remember money being a massive issue. I can only imagine how hard it must be now that there's three mat types and everything costs more. Giving newbies an opportunity to earn more cash will probably ensure that more people stay (as opposed to giving up when it becomes clear how much of a bitch grinding will be), while it avoids the problem of random arabs having tons of starting cash to DM because, unlike just giving them more money to start with, an achievement system forces them to work for their dollars.

While I was typing that, I got another idea to help ease the grind on new players. Perhaps from say, level one to level five (or maybe even just one to three), rather than getting an upgraded paycheck every two levels, you could get it every level. I remember thinking back when I was a noob how shit it was that you'd have to dump literally every dollar you'd ever earned into level 2, then you'd have to grind back up all that money (plus another 25k) with no change in your paycheck. Not to say that's not necessarily a problem at higher levels too (for some people anyway), but going from level one to level two is relatively a much larger step than going from seven to eight, and I think something should be done to ease it compared to later levels.
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Re: Newbie Achievements

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Duane_Denroy wrote:But there should be a level limit when they stop coming, so a level 20 doesn't start getting rich by using their endless supplies to do the achievements.
The idea is that you only get the reward once, so if you were to do all the achievements it roughly would be enough money to get to level 3. Perhaps the reward can only be obtained when you're under level 5-7 so high level players that want to get 100% can do so without increasing their money advantage any further.
Panzerfaust wrote: Perhaps from say, level one to level five (or maybe even just one to three), rather than getting an upgraded paycheck every two levels, you could get it every level.
I like this idea to.
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Help me to help newbies by adding to this with your ideas for achievements.

Getting Started
Change your skin
Drop a car
Catch a fish
Get a job
Check your /skill
use a 24/7
call for a mechanic
go to the bank
use your cellphone

General
sign a paycheck
Buy a phone book
use your locker
call a taxi
Have sex in the game
Buy a car
Use a car trunk
Visit the modshop

Advanced
buy a level
Join a public gang
upgrade your character
Get invited into a family
claim a point
Rent a house
reach level 5 in a skill

Arms Dealing
Get the job
Run some mats
Sell a weapon to yourself
Sell a gun to someone

Drug Dealing
Get The job
Buy some drugs from a den
Sell some drugs
Grow some weed
Use the Crack factory

Lawyer
Get The job
Check for /wanted and /cases
Defend a player
Sell some insurance
Negociate a contract
Hide a player
Investment

Wheelman
Get the job
Repair your car
Repair someones car
Color a car
Save some mods
fix a tyre

Mat Handler
Get The job
Run some mats
refine some mats
make some mats
Sell some mats
Put mats in a box
Make a sniper rifle

Mercenary
Get The Job
/find someone
/locate someone
/guard someone
/tie someone
Use a blindfold
Usa a gag

Locksmith
Get The job
get tools from a towtruck
Run some lock parts
fit some car locks
fit some trunk locks
visit the electronics shop
place a bug
Make a bomb
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poopsockery:
level 5, level 10, level 15, level 20, level 25
maxing a job to level 5
maxing all jobs
own 5 cars
buy a supercar
own 5 supercars

family / factions:
claim a point
claim a point and win
earn rank 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
lead a family
control all points

time:
log 10 hours into the game, 25, 50, 75, 100, 250, 500, 1000

RP:
use 10 /me's, 25, 50, 75, 100, 250, 500, 1000
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Sign a paycheck.
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Panzerfaust wrote:Sign a paycheck.
sign # of checks etc
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use /withdraw /deposit a numerous amount of times.

I tried helping... :smug:
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If stuff like "do ten /mes" is included, there should be a timer of sorts which prevents them from getting another point added to their /me (or whatever) count within a certain time period of the last one. So for example, if they use /me ten times in thirty seconds, they'd only get one point. It'd make those achievements take longer to get, but that's a good thing, to discourage just blitzing through it for the cash.
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I want to steer clear of any achievements that require me to add counters, because that will require adding too many fields to the player ini, and increase server lag. Also I want this to be kind of an integrated help system, rather than something else for players to poopsock.
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Post by Lockie_Fantico »

List looks very good so far, and I think doing only one /me is suffice. So you could even do chat achievements:

Chat
Say something in character
Say something out of character (/b)
Do an action (/me)
Make an ad (/ad)
Say something in family chat (/f)
Say something in gang chat (/g)

Other stuff
Complete a delivery (/delivery)
Sell a newspaper
Create a gang (/joingang)
Place a hit on someone (/contract)
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use /do
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there are only so many things that could be considered 'newbie' achievements, so I think it would also be cool to add some long term achievements. sort of like goals i guess!!

misc Notoriety achievements (maybe not actual achievements but still Fun Facts about how bad to the bone u are (these could probably be hidden until they're unlocked so people don't intentionally try to get arrested a ton or w/e who cares))

get a 5 star wanted level
be arrested 10 times
get killed by a hitman
issue a /contract for more than $10,000 dollars

cars & houses

buy a car over $100,000
buy a car over $200,000
buy a car over etc
have 2 cars
rent a house
buy a house

poopesocke

max out 2 skills
max out 3 skills
max out 4 skills
max out 5? skills
until they're all maxed out obviously

upgrades

max out upgrade #1
max out upgrade #2
max out upgrade #3
max out upgrade etc until they're all maxed out
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This will be fun for the new kids on the block. We need amusing names for the achievements too.

Soon.. we will have tf2szr hats.
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/blindfold and /tie a cop
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Purchase a Luxury car. (+$5000)
Purchase a Sports car.(+$10000)
Purchase a Boat.(+$20000)
Purchase a Helicopter(+25000)

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/Deposit 25 times, 50 times, 100 times, 250 times, 500 times, 1000 times. (+$2500extra per achievement)
/Withdraw 25 times, 50 times, 100 times, 250 times, 500 times, 1000 times.(+$2500extra per achievement)
/Transfer 25 times, 50 times, 100 times, 250 times, 500 times, 1000 times.(+$2500extra per achievement)

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Buddy List: This is a suggestion of mine, I'll just post it in here with the achievements for it.

Basically you will be able to add friends, And when they come online you will see them "Example_Example is now online."
This could also add something to do the /upgrade, Use it to add more buddies onto your list "/upgrade buddy list. You can now fit 10 buddies on your list"

Achievements:
Add 5 buddies (+$1500)
Add 10 buddies (+2500)
Add 15 buddies (+3500)
(This could go to wherever the admin wants it to.)
Use /bchat x5 (+250)
Use /bchat x10(+500)
(This could go to wherever the admin wants it to.)



Commands:
/addfriend [ID]
/removefriend [ID]
/bchat [ID]
/buddylist (shows who's on it)

E.G for buddylist:

1. Example_Example1 (offline.)
2. Example_Example2(online.)
3. Example_Example3(paused.)
4. Example_Example4(offline.)
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Chris_Fenne wrote: Buddy List: This is a suggestion of mine, I'll just post it in here with the achievements for it.

Basically you will be able to add friends, And when they come online you will see them "Example_Example is now online."
This could also add something to do the /upgrade, Use it to add more buddies onto your list "/upgrade buddy list. You can now fit 10 buddies on your list"

Achievements:
Add 5 buddies (+$1500)
Add 10 buddies (+2500)
Add 15 buddies (+3500)
(This could go to wherever the admin wants it to.)
Use /bchat x5 (+250)
Use /bchat x10(+500)
(This could go to wherever the admin wants it to.)



Commands:
/addfriend [ID]
/removefriend [ID]
/bchat [ID]
/buddylist (shows who's on it)

E.G for buddylist:

1. Example_Example1 (offline.)
2. Example_Example2(online.)
3. Example_Example3(paused.)
4. Example_Example4(offline.)
That's a good idea, would mean less having to check on TAB to see whose on.
Chris_Fenne wrote: /Deposit 25 times, 50 times, 100 times, 250 times, 500 times, 1000 times. (+$2500extra per achievement)
/Withdraw 25 times, 50 times, 100 times, 250 times, 500 times, 1000 times.(+$2500extra per achievement)
/Transfer 25 times, 50 times, 100 times, 250 times, 500 times, 1000 times.(+$2500extra per achievement)
Any achievement that requires people to spam the same command over and over is dumb and remember we don't want to give poopsockers with their huge money advantage any more free money for this stuff. we all know that people will set an autohotkey script that spams /deposit every second and goes AFK in the bank. So /deposit, /withdraw, and /transfer 1 time is all. Read what Rachael posted above:
Rachael wrote:I want to steer clear of any achievements that require me to add counters, because that will require adding too many fields to the player ini, and increase server lag. Also I want this to be kind of an integrated help system, rather than something else for players to poopsock.
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Just dropping by to say that this will/would be great, it would make more newbies actually stay.
Some people would most likely invite their friends because they'd love the system, the fact that it helps the new player to get used to how SZR works, and so on.

I like the buddylist aswell, additions:
/msgall(/messageall) sends a message to all your online/paused friends

You request to be friends with someone, if the other player accepts you will be added to their buddylist, and they will be added to yours. This will probably be abused in some way(Because this is SZR, that is kinda obvious), so you should have the ability to block all requests, remove all requests and block a person.

/bloc [ID] (/buddylocate) Makes a blip for 50 seconds, 50 second cooldown.

Just some thoughts.
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Make anything that has to do with counted achievements (ex: /deposit 25 times, 50 times, 100 times, ect.) not show up on the achievement list, and more of a hidden achievement.
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