Move from Fort Carson? [Poll Updated Please Re-Vote]

[Admiral_Ackbar]

Whoever thinks the Fort Carson central theme makes things closer together needs to get the heck out of Fort Carson and look around.

When you take into account that most of the game world is spread out way out the shit everywhere, it's impossible to know where anything is if you, I don't know, like being around people.

If you think the current map is anything close to being smaller than ANY ONE of the cities, you should take a look at how far everything in SZR is spread. Everybody hangs out in one backwater town, and every gang HQ is left abandoned and vacant.

It's a pretty fucking worthless design when it completely destroys the purpose for which everything was moved to Fort Carson to begin with, sorry. We tried it, and it sucks terribly, lets go to a city again so people can have their space and yet still not have to drive for ever through nothing to look at their HQ for 5 minutes and leave because nobody will ever come to it.

Fort Carson was cooler when it was on the failed SZR bastard child that had all the fun stuff you admins made fun of, crop dusting, coal mining, etc etc.

[Admiral_Ackbar]

But think of all the RP it opens up when you have 30 people standing at a motel all day.

[Admiral_Ackbar]

That's fucking bullshit and you know it.

[Antwuan_Dixon]

fort carson and everything around it looks nice, also i can have fun there, but i totally agree that the familys don't fit there..

[vikki]

get good

[Rob]

an angry but salient post by somebody other than rho? my god

[Bankwell]

I kind of agree with this. Fort Carson is better when there's less than 20 people online. But lately SZR has been in the 40's - I think a city would be better (plus i think fort carson has increased the dm by about 100x)

[Darnell]

I agree and i do find fortcarson a nice town but with the increase of playerbase, i think weshould move to San fierro because theres more different types of lands and buildings to be used for poonts/hqs/jobs/ government props etc. Plus theres enough sPace to be used for mapping. Lv is not good a place because its too much rich themed and too many casinos and its shit. Los santos is great but many servers are based in Los santos and it gets boring tbh. San Fierro has not too many rich buildings and not too many casinos but big buildings and good lands.


Anyways, i doubt will move in just short notice so yea, lets deal with it

[Duane_Denroy]

I find san fierro is a bit too hilly, every 5 feet you go flying off a cliff.

[Tyrone_Phillips]

I find san fierro is a bit too hilly, every 5 feet you go flying off a cliff.

Learn to drive more carefully, I don't think you would want to bring your $250,000 car up to 100mph on a hill, would you? I personally like Fort Carson, but thats just my opinion.

[Admiral_Ackbar]

Fort Carson is pretty nice, I mean it's not so shitty that I quit playing entirely but with its many symptoms of disease I begin to wonder why we came there in the first place.

A small list of things Fort Carson is and is not.
Fort Carson is a police state, want to do something illegal? Better take it any where outside the streets of Fort Carson because a force of Police is regularly patrolling a 10 block perimeter.

It is not diverse, while it may have a diverse collection of people all crammed into a small area; there are no places to visit in which express that diversity in any way. You used to be able to visit gang HQs and one's RP will be totally different from the next.

It is not very RP-centric, there's a whole one area to hold events in(the bar) and inter-faction RP becomes lost if within city boundaries because you have 30 people in cars ramming into shit and retards generally shooting 24 7.

It is a place for newbies to drool over the day they hit level 3 so they can acquire one of hundreds of guns which are regularly floating around within the small area of Fort Carson because people are always dying.

It is a place to poopsock endlessly, since a quarter of the population at any given time gets together at the pier to fish when they aren't standing at a motel.

I mean I could go on and on, but I challenge you to add to it of your own accord.

[John Reed]

true dat

[Hippo Congruency]

how many times havent i said this and no one agreed with me lol... i actually thought everyone was blind or something, the lag at FC is huge, norrmally my ping is like 150, when i'm in fort carson it goes up to 600 and makes it almost impossible to play, and SF is great honestly, anyway mike grizz made a suggestion like this but no one agreed, including admins so i guess this wont happen

[John Reed]

lets move to angel pine

[Admiral_Ackbar]

lets move to angel pine

We might as well have it'd be the same shit, different bowl.

[Rachael]

The server is almost entirely dynamic now, meaning that I can move it anywhere quite easily.

I think the main issue with fort carson is that there was an attempt to partially move to blueberry. I havn't logged in for a while, but I don't think this has worked.

As far as the 'spread out' nature of the server goes, if buttberry is taken out of the equation, then the playing area is still quite small. The material points need to be a certain distance from the city, or problems arise. If you are having problems finding things / places, remember there is a /whereis command and 'notice board' near the fort carson town hall.

Finally, the issue of players 'standing around the motel' all day. I consider this to be the fault of the playerbase being largely unimaginative, however I have been thinking of possible ways to help fix this problem. It has to do with changes to the spawn system. I have been experimenting with 'hospital spawns' and 'random spawns' whereby players who are killed respawn at the closest hospital or medical centre to where they died. I also think moving the newbie spawn might help.

In conclusion, if there is a majority that want to move somewhere else, then thats fine with me, I just need time to finish making things dynamic.

[lukesea]

Make a poll of all the places we can go (including staying the same) and let everyone vote on the idea

[thegame13]

Bring LS back.

[Admiral_Ackbar]

The playerbase can be as imaginative as their surroundings; which sadly, aren't even being used to its' full potential in FC. When we were in LS, people considered the territory they got to be sacred; they used it to its' fullest. Here, nobody knows what they want to do. Gangs having room for HQs in the bigger city allows them to utilize the property around their territory, pretty much everybody did this in Los Santos. And it did cultivate a bit of competitiveness when it came to business.

Even if you know where things are, they are a distance from where home is. Nobody uses the alternative spawns that we already have because they are so far out; if they didn't all stand at the newbie spawn, where would they go?

So now the question is, where should we go?

Back to LS, go to San Fierro?
Or stay here, and enjoy the rolling countryside and fun landscapes of nothingness to drive in at the cost of never being able to purchase already owned and unused businesses across FC and never having anybody come to your HQ(Unless you're Dublin Soldiers.)

A poll it is.

Edit: This poll is going to be held like a playoff, the top two will be in a final poll to decide what everybody prefers the most. Some people are retarded and may think LV sounds nice, but when they come to their senses that they threw their vote away toward something dumb they will get a chance to vote for the lesser of two evils at the end.

[Zaph]

I've always loved SF. Jussayin'

[vikki]

The playerbase can be as imaginative as their surroundings

this is just untrue though

[Duane_Denroy]

I'd be cool with Angel Pine. I love how green it is, haha.

[vikki]

haha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Darnell_Denroy]

Vikki fails at trolling. Also angel pine is pretty sick.

[Panzerfaust]

Before the move, I would have opposed us moving to Angel Pine due to the utter lack of any other towns around it. However, since we've moved, I've noticed that everyone just seems to hang around Fort Carson anyway, so having only one town to work with wouldn't exactly be an issue. Also I like the countryside around Angel Pine at least as much as the countryside around Carson, what with the forests, huge hills, farms, various industrial applications, and of course Mount Chiliad as the centrepiece of it all. Not saying we should definitely move there, but it wouldn't be worse than Fort Carson.

Basically, I don't like the idea of going back to a major city, but I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to moving us to a different area of the map.